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NeverTrustAMidget



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
JamieHall wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Interesting that you are more concerned with a Saudi reporter allegedly killed at the Saudi embassy in Turkey than you were when Americans were killed in an US embassy in Libya.


Great deflection, but the topic is the American citizen who was killed and butchered by Saudis. The evidence keeps stacking up.

Interesting that $100 million of Saudi money was magically transferred to the US on the day Pompeo went to Saudi Arabia this week for his photo opp ... I mean, "investigation."

The Trump snowflakes whined nonstop about Hillary taking Saudi money like it was an atrocity. Where's the uproar about Trump taking Saudi bribes and kissing Saudi arse when an American is tortured and killed?

And yes, here's a link, since you folks don't follow much news beyond Hannity and Limbaugh:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/saudi-arabia-transfers-100-million-to-us-amid-crisis-over-khashoggi/2018/10/17/22b23ae1-c6a4-43a4-9b7d-ce04603fa6ab_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9e5e2c60e4b2



There you go again repeating false talking points. He was NOT an US citizen . He was a Saudi citizen who just happened to work part time for a US "cough cough" news outlet. He lived in self imposed exile.

Had a history of verbal attacks on the Saudi Royal family. AND had a close relationship with Osama Bin Laden.

Explain why a man who lived in self imposed exile because he feared for his life would enter a Saudi embassy in Turkey instead of one in the US? The claim was that he wanted to file for divorce.

Why has the Turkish government REFUSED to release the audio and video evidence they claim they had. Even though Trump has officially and publicly asked that they share that information with US officials.


I do love one claim that the Turkish police entered the embassy and found evidence of the killing. OMFG!!!!

An embassy is considered sovereign land and the police cannot investigate anything without permission of the Saudi. Do you really believe that if the Saudi did what was claimed that they will allow local police into the not only the embassy but into area where the alleged activity took place?

Turks have not and will never release any of their so called evidence if it even exist. If they do then it will provide proof that the Turks were engaged in an act of espionage against the Saudis.

But go ahead and keep repeating emotionally motivated talking points you hear from people with ulterior motives.


Are you making the claim that the Saudi's did not kill the man?


SWING AND A MISS!!!!

Until the Turkish government releases the "evidence" they claim they have then there is no proof that the man is even dead.

All we have is someone making a claim and then refusing to present the evidence they claim they have to prove it.

What if there is a claim by someone that they had evidence that PV=nRT was a child molester. Then when pressed the person who made the claim refuses to present the evidence they claimed to have.

Should we automatically believe them without their evidence and ban you from schools, playgrounds, trick or treating or any activity where children are involved. Or do we wait to view the evidence?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
JamieHall wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Interesting that you are more concerned with a Saudi reporter allegedly killed at the Saudi embassy in Turkey than you were when Americans were killed in an US embassy in Libya.


Great deflection, but the topic is the American citizen who was killed and butchered by Saudis. The evidence keeps stacking up.

Interesting that $100 million of Saudi money was magically transferred to the US on the day Pompeo went to Saudi Arabia this week for his photo opp ... I mean, "investigation."

The Trump snowflakes whined nonstop about Hillary taking Saudi money like it was an atrocity. Where's the uproar about Trump taking Saudi bribes and kissing Saudi arse when an American is tortured and killed?

And yes, here's a link, since you folks don't follow much news beyond Hannity and Limbaugh:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/saudi-arabia-transfers-100-million-to-us-amid-crisis-over-khashoggi/2018/10/17/22b23ae1-c6a4-43a4-9b7d-ce04603fa6ab_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9e5e2c60e4b2



There you go again repeating false talking points. He was NOT an US citizen . He was a Saudi citizen who just happened to work part time for a US "cough cough" news outlet. He lived in self imposed exile.

Had a history of verbal attacks on the Saudi Royal family. AND had a close relationship with Osama Bin Laden.

Explain why a man who lived in self imposed exile because he feared for his life would enter a Saudi embassy in Turkey instead of one in the US? The claim was that he wanted to file for divorce.

Why has the Turkish government REFUSED to release the audio and video evidence they claim they had. Even though Trump has officially and publicly asked that they share that information with US officials.


I do love one claim that the Turkish police entered the embassy and found evidence of the killing. OMFG!!!!

An embassy is considered sovereign land and the police cannot investigate anything without permission of the Saudi. Do you really believe that if the Saudi did what was claimed that they will allow local police into the not only the embassy but into area where the alleged activity took place?

Turks have not and will never release any of their so called evidence if it even exist. If they do then it will provide proof that the Turks were engaged in an act of espionage against the Saudis.

But go ahead and keep repeating emotionally motivated talking points you hear from people with ulterior motives.


Are you making the claim that the Saudi's did not kill the man?


SWING AND A MISS!!!!

Until the Turkish government releases the "evidence" they claim they have then there is no proof that the man is even dead.

All we have is someone making a claim and then refusing to present the evidence they claim they have to prove it.

What if there is a claim by someone that they had evidence that PV=nRT was a child molester. Then when pressed the person who made the claim refuses to present the evidence they claimed to have.

Should we automatically believe them without their evidence and ban you from schools, playgrounds, trick or treating or any activity where children are involved. Or do we wait to view the evidence?


What do you believe has happened to him then?
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NeverTrustAMidget



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK now we FINALLY have proof that he has been killed.

18 Saudis employees at the embassy have been arrested by the Saudi government and two officials have lost their jobs.

But we have finally gotten actual facts in place and not speculation.


According to report we now know he was killed after a fight broke out inside the embassy.


Am not excusing what was done. Looks as if the Saudis are taking steps to address what happened.

Let's look at what we have done.

We have taken no official action against Saudi Arabia until the facts were exposed. Not speculation but actual facts.

We have requested all evidence from Turkey , which they have refused to provide.

We sent the Sec of State to have face to face talks with the leaders of Saudi Arabia to let them know our position and the potential penalties that could occur.

Trump himself publicly warned the Saudi's that there could be consequences to pay if these claims were true.

We pulled out of an economic summit later this month in Saudi Arabia.

In other word we did exactly what we should have done. We did not take knee jerk actions over rumors and waited till facts were actually presented.


If this happened between 2009-2016 his remains most likely would have been taken to some remote area and disposed up in a way which would have made it impossible for them to be found.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poor man WAS murdered at the hands of Saudi security forces and forensic doctors. I haven't heard anything refuting that argument as yet and I seriously doubt that I will ever hear anything that resembles a credible refutation of that. Many of you just don't have a clue.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoTrack wrote:
The poor man WAS murdered at the hands of Saudi security forces and forensic doctors. I haven't heard anything refuting that argument as yet and I seriously doubt that I will ever hear anything that resembles a credible refutation of that. Many of you just don't have a clue.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Do you even read other post before posting. It has finally been established that he was killed by the Saudi's and the Present has said as late as yesterday that he does not accept the story the Saudi's have released.

Most of your lefty friends on here have moved on to other issues since they no longer have any ammo on the issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of us, even now with the few "facts" that are now admitted by the Saudi's, have hundreds of questions about who, what, when, where, why and how all of this has taken place. One thing I can assure you is that there was no fistfight that promulgated all that happened in that counsular's vestige in this instance. Hopefully we'll all know more in the near future but we all already know the feelings the lil' dondon holds towards the media at large and in general. Seriously. He has no clue as to the laughing stock he has made of himself and the better reputation of the United States of America.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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