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Physical barriers. Porkchop, Jamie, PV, Psycho
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:19 pm    Post subject: Physical barriers. Porkchop, Jamie, PV, Psycho Reply with quote

Before Trump, almost all democrats were in favor of physical barriers at the southern border. After Trump, they all oppose any additional physical barriers. What happened?

Numerous supporting links if you guys want them. Let me know.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/


Did I say anything about a vote? Nooooooo. You know what democrats were saying about border walls/barriers before Trump. What happened? What changed? A man would own up to the truth. Answer the question honestly, or you have no credibility...none.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excavator wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/


Did I say anything about a vote? Nooooooo. You know what democrats were saying about border walls/barriers before Trump. What happened? What changed? A man would own up to the truth. Answer the question honestly, or you have no credibility...none.


You didn't provide a link showing where "all" democrats were in favor of what Trump is shutting the government down over.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
Excavator wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/


Did I say anything about a vote? Nooooooo. You know what democrats were saying about border walls/barriers before Trump. What happened? What changed? A man would own up to the truth. Answer the question honestly, or you have no credibility...none.


You didn't provide a link showing where "all" democrats were in favor of what Trump is shutting the government down over.


"Almost all". I know you've seen the footage of leading democrats advocating border walls. Another deflection. Try again?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excavator wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/


Did I say anything about a vote? Nooooooo. You know what democrats were saying about border walls/barriers before Trump. What happened? What changed? A man would own up to the truth. Answer the question honestly, or you have no credibility...none.


PolitiFact just like Snopes has been caught changing the claim order to get the results they wanted.

Case in point the claim that 18 kids died in ICE CUSTODY under Obama.

PoliticFacts changed the wording of the claim to get the results they wanted.

And I quote " we have not found any evidence that any child died ON THE BORDER, during the Obama administration."

No one claimed they died "ON THE BORDER" under Obama but they died "IN ICE CUSTODY". Which did happen. But PolitiFacts added a few words to their answer to create the answer they wanted to get.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
Excavator wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/


Did I say anything about a vote? Nooooooo. You know what democrats were saying about border walls/barriers before Trump. What happened? What changed? A man would own up to the truth. Answer the question honestly, or you have no credibility...none.


You didn't provide a link showing where "all" democrats were in favor of what Trump is shutting the government down over.


I could provide all the video links of leading democrats speeches in support of physical border barriers, but that would be a waste of time since you and your fellow deniers would not view them anyway because you know it's 100% true. Come on, tell the truth. What changed?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Excavator wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
I'll save you the trouble.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/


Did I say anything about a vote? Nooooooo. You know what democrats were saying about border walls/barriers before Trump. What happened? What changed? A man would own up to the truth. Answer the question honestly, or you have no credibility...none.


PolitiFact just like Snopes has been caught changing the claim order to get the results they wanted.

Case in point the claim that 18 kids died in ICE CUSTODY under Obama.

PoliticFacts changed the wording of the claim to get the results they wanted.

And I quote " we have not found any evidence that any child died ON THE BORDER, during the Obama administration."

No one claimed they died "ON THE BORDER" under Obama but they died "IN ICE CUSTODY". Which did happen. But PolitiFacts added a few words to their answer to create the answer they wanted to get.


Yeah, they know it, but don't care. Their agenda is MUCH more important than the truth.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://youtu.be/ijLJSTGA3hs

https://youtu.be/tlfOPvUABnw

https://youtu.be/MdAyn89hFIo
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.facebook.com/derekmke/videos/1233022310195490/
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My agenda is always first and foremost in my political participation. Why would it not be? That said, my agenda tends to change as conditions change.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoTrack wrote:
My agenda is always first and foremost in my political participation. Why would it not be? That said, my agenda tends to change as conditions change.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


I'm tempted to post a few of Donnie's Tweets from around that same time when he was routinely saying the exact opposite of what he says now (including his lavish praise of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton). But these half-wits can't comprehend irony even when it's spoon-fed to them, so I'll pass. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
PsychoTrack wrote:
My agenda is always first and foremost in my political participation. Why would it not be? That said, my agenda tends to change as conditions change.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


I'm tempted to post a few of Donnie's Tweets from around that same time when he was routinely saying the exact opposite of what he says now (including his lavish praise of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton). But these half-wits can't comprehend irony even when it's spoon-fed to them, so I'll pass. Rolling Eyes


But....but.....but.....but Trump! Now that's irony.......
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did you delete your post Jamie?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting for links showing "all" democrats in support of the American taxpayer paying for a Big, beautiful wall from sea to shining sea.
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