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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[We already know the truth. This is just another fake-a$$ plot by sleaze-bag, desperate democrats, and you know it without a doubt.


Typical response from a mouth breather. Neither you, I, nor anyone in the Senate currently knows what the truth is.


Excavator wrote:

You're all over this, but not a peep about Keith Ellison. 911 calls, an actual police report, some REAL evidence in Ellison's case, but that's okay, and he gets a pass because he's a liberal democrat, right?

What about Keith Ellison?


Lol at the whataboutism. I had to google Keith Ellison as I had no idea who this guy was. Sorry bud, I don't follow Minnesota politics. But if it makes your "christian" heart feel better, his accusers should be heard just like any other accuser.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Excavator wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
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PV=nRT wrote:
Still waiting on Midge to tell us how many days the GOP was willing to let Scalia's seat stay open.


Do not answer apples and oranges questions. To do so would legitimize your illegitimate argument.


The GOP proved they are willing to wait a REALLY long time for a SCOTUS judge confirmation in the name of "Politics". That seat would still be vacant had Hillary won the election. Now, the GOP is trying to rush an appointment in the name of "politics". LOL You clowns are beyond predictable.


The GOP Has not rushed. The confirmation process has run it's intended course. Politics is always the leading factor, but the fact is that Judge kavanaugh is more than qualified to fill the seat. The last minute hail Mary with the fake plant will fail, and kavanaugh will be confirmed.


But you really have to laugh about things. Woman says he attacked me and shouldn't be on bench. Yet when given opportunity to go before the committees and testify about what happened she continues to hee and haw and ask for this situation or that situation before she will testify.

Not only does she want to pick the day she testifies, but who asks her questions and the scheduled of the day for all the proceedings and who else will testify that day. If this was a legitimate witness she would t4estify when the committee wanted and she would answer all questions from all committee members.

Committee should tell her here is the date you will testify and you will be face questions from every member of committee who wants to ask you a question. If not then we will continue without your input.


She is asking for a legitimate investigation, which is what should be done to find the facts in this case. These Senate committee's are a joke, as both sides have already made up their minds minus any facts. Is there any reason why you are opposed to a legitimate investigation?


No she isn't. The FBI does not have the authority to investigate an alleged State criminal act. If she really wanted the facts to be found out she would have asked the state criminal justice system to investigate sometime in the past 36 years. She is a radical at U of Cal and is willing to do or say anything to push an agenda. SHE DOES NOT WANT AN OPEN INVESTIGATION. Just like she does not want to testify in front of the committee without protection from being charged with perjury.

This isn't a background check which the FBI has done on almost every appointed. It would be a criminal investigation and the FBI does not have the authority to investigate an alleged state crime.

As we have seen already this FBI cannot be trusted to investigate a jay walking incident.


Lol. Why are you so opposed to finding out the truth? What's the hurry with this nomination? You clowns have already proven that you are willing to let SCOTUS seats sit vacant for years. You bypassed a legitimate nomination with some fabricated BS and even changed the rules with number of votes needed for confirmation. But now you want to rush a vote without properly confirming/refuting the authenticity of allegations. What you are seeing now is the backlash from the Garland nomination. We were at one time all Americans, but we have now been divided into tribes. Just look at how pathetic you have become, as a "Christian Conservative" who supports the antics of a man like Trump. You guys are so broken.



How does demanding an investigation by an organization which cannot LEGALLY investigate the incident get to the truth?

This isn't about getting top the truth. The left knows the FBI CANNOT investigate an alleged state crime but they still insist that everything is delayed until the FBI investigates. If they were interested in getting to the truth they would have the state investigating things.

This is 100% about delaying and possibly killing the nomination of Kavanaugh. Has nothing to do with getting to the truth.


The FBI is used to vet and conduct background checks on potential nominees. If Trump really wants to get to the truth, he would ask the FBI to investigate these allegations as part of the vetting process. It seems he doesn't want this as there is nothing for him to gain politically from this.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could stop all this tomorrow.

Just pass a law which makes it a felony to knowingly make a false claim about another person. Or to assist in spreading what is knowingly a false claim about a person.

Right now there is no form of punishment for making false claims about someone. You have civil action to take but most elected/appointed officials do not have the time and money it takes to go through the slander/libel process.

Make it a criminal act and the elected/appointed official does not have to be on front lines of the case. Leaving them time to do the job they were elected/appointed to do.


You would have to have an investigation to determine this. Make up your mind dude. Do you want these allegations investigated or not?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just pass a law which makes it a felony to knowingly make a false claim about another person.


Trump would be in jail by now. You sure you want to make that a law?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Just pass a law which makes it a felony to knowingly make a false claim about another person.


Trump would be in jail by now. You sure you want to make that a law?


How quickly we forget that our sitting POTUS is a birther.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
Excavator wrote:
[We already know the truth. This is just another fake-a$$ plot by sleaze-bag, desperate democrats, and you know it without a doubt.


Typical response from a mouth breather. Neither you, I, nor anyone in the Senate currently knows what the truth is.


Excavator wrote:

You're all over this, but not a peep about Keith Ellison. 911 calls, an actual police report, some REAL evidence in Ellison's case, but that's okay, and he gets a pass because he's a liberal democrat, right?

What about Keith Ellison?


I had to google Keith Ellison as I had no idea who this guy was.
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US representative. Deputy Chair of the Democratic National Committee, and you didn't know who he was? Then to come in here and act like you're full of political knowledge, try to lecture others about the US political system. You're full of sh!t.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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US representative. Deputy Chair of the Democratic National Committee, and you didn't know who he was? Then to come in here and act like you're full of political knowledge, try to lecture others about the US political system. You're full of sh!t.


I've never belonged to a political party. I believe in pragmatic thought versus idealistic indoctrination. I don't keep up with superpacs or any of that crap. Sorry, I leave the party loyalty nonsense to the sheeple like yourself.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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US representative. Deputy Chair of the Democratic National Committee, and you didn't know who he was? Then to come in here and act like you're full of political knowledge, try to lecture others about the US political system. You're full of sh!t.


I've never belonged to a political party. I believe in pragmatic thought versus idealistic indoctrination. I don't keep up with superpacs or any of that crap. Sorry, I leave the party loyalty nonsense to the sheeple like yourself.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You could stop all this tomorrow.

Just pass a law which makes it a felony to knowingly make a false claim about another person. Or to assist in spreading what is knowingly a false claim about a person.

Right now there is no form of punishment for making false claims about someone. You have civil action to take but most elected/appointed officials do not have the time and money it takes to go through the slander/libel process.

Make it a criminal act and the elected/appointed official does not have to be on front lines of the case. Leaving them time to do the job they were elected/appointed to do.


Do you want these allegations investigated or not?


Now that you know who Keith Ellison is, do you want the allegations against him investigated? Remember, in his case there is evidence such as 911 calls, and a police report.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You could stop all this tomorrow.

Just pass a law which makes it a felony to knowingly make a false claim about another person. Or to assist in spreading what is knowingly a false claim about a person.

Right now there is no form of punishment for making false claims about someone. You have civil action to take but most elected/appointed officials do not have the time and money it takes to go through the slander/libel process.

Make it a criminal act and the elected/appointed official does not have to be on front lines of the case. Leaving them time to do the job they were elected/appointed to do.


Do you want these allegations investigated or not?


Now that you know who Keith Ellison is, do you want the allegations against him investigated? Remember, in his case there is evidence such as 911 calls, and a police report.


I've already answered your question, but once again, his accusers should be heard and should be investigated. So what about you, should there be an investigation into the Kav allegations since this is a lifetime appointment or should we just plow on without checking to see if they hold any merit? The GOP let Scalia's seat sit vacant for over a year, so what's the hurry? I'll wait.
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Why is Dr. Ford treated even worse than Dr. Anita Hill? It's very clear that the repubs have little to no respect for the female majority in this nation. I think that will show up in the election cycle of 2018. We'll see in November, won't we?

And the investigations continue. There are reasons for that and they don't include "witch hunt."
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now that you know who Keith Ellison is, do you want the allegations against him investigated? Remember, in his case there is evidence such as 911 calls, and a police report.


Now that you know who Donald Trump is, do you want the allegations against him investigated? Remember, in this case there is evidence such as him on tape saying that he grabs women by the p***y, and sworn allegations by 19 women.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
Excavator wrote:
Now that you know who Keith Ellison is, do you want the allegations against him investigated? Remember, in his case there is evidence such as 911 calls, and a police report.


Now that you know who Donald Trump is, do you want the allegations against him investigated? Remember, in this case there is evidence such as him on tape saying that he grabs women by the p***y, and sworn allegations by 19 women.


Any woman who has been abused should file a complaint, and that complaint should be fully investigated no matter who the accused is. But, for Dr. Ford to suddenly come out after 36 years with zero supporting evidence at this particular time should be recognized for what it is, a political plot to prevent a conservative judge from being appointed to the SCOTUS. My point is that the democrats, and the media are pounding this into the ground (for obvious reasons) while there are those within their own party who have actually abused women, and are being ignored. That's why democrats are stuck with the stigma of the obvious double standard which they ARE guilty of over and over again.
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Why is Dr. Ford treated even worse than Dr. Anita Hill? It's very clear that the repubs have little to no respect for the female majority in this nation. I think that will show up in the election cycle of 2018. We'll see in November, won't we?

And the investigations continue. There are reasons for that and they don't include "witch hunt."


Democrats always claim to be the party that cares for women, and women's rights. If that's true, why do democrats support men going into women's restrooms? If a female sees a penis at a high school party, it's a crime. If a female (including adolescent girls) sees a penis in a public restroom, it's perfectly acceptable. Explain the difference please.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
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PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
Still waiting on Midge to tell us how many days the GOP was willing to let Scalia's seat stay open.


Do not answer apples and oranges questions. To do so would legitimize your illegitimate argument.


The GOP proved they are willing to wait a REALLY long time for a SCOTUS judge confirmation in the name of "Politics". That seat would still be vacant had Hillary won the election. Now, the GOP is trying to rush an appointment in the name of "politics". LOL You clowns are beyond predictable.


The GOP Has not rushed. The confirmation process has run it's intended course. Politics is always the leading factor, but the fact is that Judge kavanaugh is more than qualified to fill the seat. The last minute hail Mary with the fake plant will fail, and kavanaugh will be confirmed.


But you really have to laugh about things. Woman says he attacked me and shouldn't be on bench. Yet when given opportunity to go before the committees and testify about what happened she continues to hee and haw and ask for this situation or that situation before she will testify.

Not only does she want to pick the day she testifies, but who asks her questions and the scheduled of the day for all the proceedings and who else will testify that day. If this was a legitimate witness she would t4estify when the committee wanted and she would answer all questions from all committee members.

Committee should tell her here is the date you will testify and you will be face questions from every member of committee who wants to ask you a question. If not then we will continue without your input.


She is asking for a legitimate investigation, which is what should be done to find the facts in this case. These Senate committee's are a joke, as both sides have already made up their minds minus any facts. Is there any reason why you are opposed to a legitimate investigation?


No she isn't. The FBI does not have the authority to investigate an alleged State criminal act. If she really wanted the facts to be found out she would have asked the state criminal justice system to investigate sometime in the past 36 years. She is a radical at U of Cal and is willing to do or say anything to push an agenda. SHE DOES NOT WANT AN OPEN INVESTIGATION. Just like she does not want to testify in front of the committee without protection from being charged with perjury.

This isn't a background check which the FBI has done on almost every appointed. It would be a criminal investigation and the FBI does not have the authority to investigate an alleged state crime.

As we have seen already this FBI cannot be trusted to investigate a jay walking incident.


Lol. Why are you so opposed to finding out the truth?


The truth is obvious. 36 years later, at the 11th hour of the confirmation process, no evidence, all witnesses named by Ford deny the alleged incident ever happened. It's a plot to stop a conservative judge from being confirmed.
You know this.

It's like digging into the time when George Washington sexually assaulted Ruth Ginsburg. Laughing
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