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mudslinger47



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Your Opinion... Reply with quote

A friend of mine, a little older then me stated today, he didn't understand the surprise that many had when the guy drove threw the crowd and killed that young lady.... they should have know it was coming, they made that man what he is.... Yeah, he may have been a little screwy but with Antfa, the BLM and the Alt-left, blocking freeways, tearing down statues, rioting because a conservative wants to give a speech at a college.... All that stuff builds up, not only in that guy but some of us too.... you may poo poo it all you want, but when you see many things happening and no law enforcement to amount to anything you begin to wonder who is running the asylum.... now, many of us have the restraint and understand we can't take it in to our own hands... but some people don't have that restraint....

These nutburgers are bought and paid for by left leaning hate...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When your only purpose in life is hate, prejudice and hitler worshipping one would probably fail in a lot of areas. It was the neo-nazis, skin heads, white supremists and other hate filled idiots that promulgated the violence there. The tapes of it that I've seen show very clearly who showed up there with body shields, billy clubs and baseball bats, firearms and helmets. Just that appearance is enough to explain just who it was that was there to start trouble. Any way you want to look at it anyone can understand that Charlottesville had a pretty rotten weekend.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When your only purpose in life is hate, prejudice and hitler worshipping one would probably fail in a lot of areas. It was the neo-nazis, skin heads, white supremists and other hate filled idiots that promulgated the violence there. The tapes of it that I've seen show very clearly who showed up there with body shields, billy clubs and baseball bats, firearms and helmets. Just that appearance is enough to explain just who it was that was there to start trouble. Any way you want to look at it anyone can understand that Charlottesville had a pretty rotten weekend.


Good work, you entirely missed the whole point.... dumb as a post...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't miss your point at all, crapslinger. You made a false interpretation of exactly what happened in Charlottesville. I haven't seen the first picture yet of any lefties showing up for those demonstrations with torches, firearms, body shields, helmets, billy clubs or baseball bats or any other aggressive weaponry. The statue being protested by the rightwingnuts is down. I find consolation in that.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoTrack wrote:
I didn't miss your point at all, crapslinger. You made a false interpretation of exactly what happened in Charlottesville. I haven't seen the first picture yet of any lefties showing up for those demonstrations with torches, firearms, body shields, helmets, billy clubs or baseball bats or any other aggressive weaponry. The statue being protested by the rightwingnuts is down. I find consolation in that.


Then you sir have not been paying attention.... One side had a legal permit to be where they were to hold a peaceful demonstration, the other side didn't... who broke the law first?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One side did have a permit to march in opposition to the removal of a statue. That permit was not permission to show up like they did and harass others that were there to uphold true American values. Look through the videos and you'll have to admit that the alt-right and others of their ilk were the ones that promulgated the violence. There were 19 people severely injured in that melee and one dead. All of them were from the side that was trying to promote true American values.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoTrack wrote:
One side did have a permit to march in opposition to the removal of a statue. That permit was not permission to show up like they did and harass others that were there to uphold true American values. Look through the videos and you'll have to admit that the alt-right and others of their ilk were the ones that promulgated the violence. There were 19 people severely injured in that melee and one dead. All of them were from the side that was trying to promote true American values.


You can watch videos all day and see that both sides were to blame. How many folks would have gotten hurt or killed if the racists were allowed to protest in peace?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Your Opinion... Reply with quote

[quote="mudslinger47"they should have know it was coming, they made that man what he is.... [/quote]

You're making excuses for evil people.

When Dylan Roof walked into a black church and slaughtered 9 Christians, was it because black people pushed him too far? Or was it Christians' fault?

When Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma City and murdered 168 innocent people, was it the government's fault?

When Adam Lanza killed 28 people at Sandy Hook Elementary -- many of them innocent children -- should we have blamed the kids for making him do it?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When one side of an argument shows up for their own protest armed to the hilt it's not surprising that violence would be their ultimate ambition.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoTrack wrote:
When one side of an argument shows up for their own protest armed to the hilt it's not surprising that violence would be their ultimate ambition.


Sidestepping my question?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Your Opinion... Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
[quote="mudslinger47"they should have know it was coming, they made that man what he is....


You're making excuses for evil people.

When Dylan Roof walked into a black church and slaughtered 9 Christians, was it because black people pushed him too far? Or was it Christians' fault?

When Timothy McVeigh blew up a building in Oklahoma City and murdered 168 innocent people, was it the government's fault?

When Adam Lanza killed 28 people at Sandy Hook Elementary -- many of them innocent children -- should we have blamed the kids for making him do it?[/quote]

four different deals there Jamie, but nice try anyway...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoTrack wrote:
One side did have a permit to march in opposition to the removal of a statue. That permit was not permission to show up like they did and harass others that were there to uphold true American values. Look through the videos and you'll have to admit that the alt-right and others of their ilk were the ones that promulgated the violence. There were 19 people severely injured in that melee and one dead. All of them were from the side that was trying to promote true American values.


We have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean we have to like the speech... the supremacist side was there legally, the Antifa side was not, they never should have been allowed by the police to get with in a half a mile of the other group.... then more then likely, no one gets hurt..... the first people on scene to be wrong were the police, if it is proven that they were told to let this happen, then there will be hell to pay....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudslinger47 wrote:
PsychoTrack wrote:
One side did have a permit to march in opposition to the removal of a statue. That permit was not permission to show up like they did and harass others that were there to uphold true American values. Look through the videos and you'll have to admit that the alt-right and others of their ilk were the ones that promulgated the violence. There were 19 people severely injured in that melee and one dead. All of them were from the side that was trying to promote true American values.


We have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean we have to like the speech... the supremacist side was there legally, the Antifa side was not, they never should have been allowed by the police to get with in a half a mile of the other group.... then more then likely, no one gets hurt..... the first people on scene to be wrong were the police, if it is proven that they were told to let this happen, then there will be hell to pay....


You clearly didn't think this one through.

1. What law says that any rally held must be evacuated for 1/2 mile? There are thousands of commercial businesses and residences within 1/2 mile of Emancipation park. I believe a significant portion of the UVA campus falls within your 1/2 mile radius.

2. How are you going to determine who is who? Did Unite the Right distribute tickets for this event? I don't believe they did.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We now know that both sides had permits and one side chose to leave their agreed upon route through Emancipation Park and confront the peace lovers 1/2 mile away. This is not nearly over and the alt-right and their ilk will probably be forced to put up million dollar bonds for any further permits that they apply for.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
mudslinger47 wrote:
PsychoTrack wrote:
One side did have a permit to march in opposition to the removal of a statue. That permit was not permission to show up like they did and harass others that were there to uphold true American values. Look through the videos and you'll have to admit that the alt-right and others of their ilk were the ones that promulgated the violence. There were 19 people severely injured in that melee and one dead. All of them were from the side that was trying to promote true American values.


We have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean we have to like the speech... the supremacist side was there legally, the Antifa side was not, they never should have been allowed by the police to get with in a half a mile of the other group.... then more then likely, no one gets hurt..... the first people on scene to be wrong were the police, if it is proven that they were told to let this happen, then there will be hell to pay....


You clearly didn't think this one through.

1. What law says that any rally held must be evacuated for 1/2 mile? There are thousands of commercial businesses and residences within 1/2 mile of Emancipation park. I believe a significant portion of the UVA campus falls within your 1/2 mile radius.

2. How are you going to determine who is who? Did Unite the Right distribute tickets for this event? I don't believe they did.


I see congress calling for investigation in the Charlottesville debacle.... The Mayor (a political activist) and the Governor are gonna be suckin hind t!t on this deal I'd bet.... One police officer has already came forward and stated they were told to stand down after the initial contact....
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