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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You didn't answer my question.....waiting....


That's not how it works. I asked first. You're deflecting cause I'm pushing your chit in.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's that fudge packer? Did you answer the question?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You obviously don't want to answer the question because you CAN'T. LOL. Look dude, it's your own choice that you've gone all in with the MUST PROTECT DADDY routine. I know it sucks and all, but again, your choice.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me help you out......the answer to the question you won't answer is: there was no investigation and the aid was given. With that....there is no "this for that".
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith Stone wrote:
Let me help you out......the answer to the question you won't answer is: there was no investigation and the aid was given. With that....there is no "this for that".


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/read-gordon-sondlands-revised-testimony-about-trump-pressuring-ukraine.html

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DECLARATION OF AMBASSADOR GORDON D. SONDLAND

I, Gordon Sondland, do hereby swear and affirm as follows:

1. I have reviewed the October 22, 2019, opening statement of Ambassador William Taylor. I have also reviewed the October 31, 2019, opening statement of Tim Morrison. These two opening statements have refreshed my recollection about certain conversations in early September 2019.

2. Ambassador Taylor recalls that I told Mr. Morrison in early September 2019 that the resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine had become tied to a public statement to be issued by Ukraine agreeing to investigate Burisma. Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told Ambassador Taylor that I told Mr. Morrison that I had conveyed this message to Mr. Yermak on September 1, 2019, in connection with Vice President Pence’s visit to Warsaw and a meeting with President Zelensky. Mr. Morrison recalls that I said to him in early September that resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine might be conditioned on a public statement reopening the Burisma investigation.

3. In my October 17, 2019 prepared testimony and in my deposition, I made clear that I had understood sometime after our May 23, 2019, White House debriefing that scheduling a White House visit for President Zelensky was conditioned upon President Zelensky’s agreement to make a public anti-corruption statement. This condition had been communicated by Rudy Giuliani, with whom President Trump directed Ambassador Volker, Secretary Perry, and me, on May 23, 2019, to discuss issues related to the President’s concerns about Ukraine. Ambassador Volker, Secretary Perry, and I understood that satisfying Mr. Giuliani was a condition for scheduling the White House visit, which we all strongly believed to be in the mutual interest of the United States and Ukraine.

4. With respect to the September 1, 2019, Warsaw meeting, the conversations described in Ambassador Taylor’s and Mr. Morrison’s opening statements have refreshed my recollection about conversations involving the suspension of U.S. aid, which had become public only days earlier. I always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised, although I did not know (and still do not know) when, why, or by whom the aid was suspended. However; by the beginning of September 2019, and in the absence of any credible explanation for the suspension of aid, I presumed that the aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement. As I said in my prepared testimony, security aid to Ukraine was in our vital national interest and should not have been delayed for any reason. And it would have been natural for me to have voiced what I had presumed to Ambassador Taylor, Senator Johnson, the Ukrainians, and Mr. Morrison.

5. Also, I now do recall a conversation on September 1, 2019, in Warsaw with Mr. Yermak. This brief pull-aside conversation followed the larger meeting involving Vice President Pence and President Zelensky, in which President Zelensky had raised the issue of the suspension of U.S. aid to Ukraine directly with Vice President Pence. After that large meeting, I now recall speaking individually with Mr. Yermak, where I said that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks. I also recall some question as to whether the public statement could come from the newly appointed Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than from President Zelensky directly.

6. Soon thereafter, I came to understand that, in fact, the public statement would need to come directly from President Zelensky himself. I do not specifically recall how I learned this, but I believe that the information may have come either from Mr. Giuliani or from Ambassador Volker, who may have discussed this with Mr. Giuliani. In a later conversation with Ambassador Taylor, I told him that I had been mistaken about whether a public statement could come from the Prosecutor General; I had come to understand that the public statement would have to come from President Zelensky himself.

7. Finally, as of this writing, I cannot specifically recall if I had one or two phone calls with President Trump in the September 6-9 time frame. Despite repeated requests to the White House and the State Department, I have not been granted access to all of the phone records, and I would like to review those phone records, along with any notes and other documents that may exist, to determine if I can provide more complete testimony to assist Congress. However, although I have no specific recollection of phone calls during this period with Ambassador Taylor or Mr. Morrison, I have no reason to question the substance of their recollection about my September 1 conversation with Mr. Yermak.

I declare under penalty of perjury that the aforementioned is true.

Executed on November 4, 2019.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strictly opinion...... you're a poster child for confirmation bias, pitiful.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith Stone wrote:
Strictly opinion...... you're a poster child for confirmation bias, pitiful.


Not opinion. That is in writing provided by Trump's personal donor and lapdog. Sorry Baw, facts. I know this sucks for you.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No fudgepack..... the facts are in the phone call not someone's opinion, keep believing though. By the way, I hope you never serve on a jury
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No fudgepack..... the facts are in the phone call not someone's opinion, keep believing though. By the way, I hope you never serve on a jury


Typical Trumpkin, so broken. LOL at how you completely dismiss the multitude of people who have testified, all of which confirms the WB's complaint. Not a single bit of testimony has gone your way, sorry. 6 transcripts have been released so far, all of them pretty much confirm the complaint. I know, you love swamp water and corruption, don't you? Oh wait, you "trust" this man and everyone else is wrong. Correct?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh oh dumbkin.......you were saying about those witnesses?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-obamas-ukraine-ambassador-allegedly-lied-under-oath-in-impeachment-inquiry-congressman-suggests?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Uh oh dumbkin.......you were saying about those witnesses?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-obamas-ukraine-ambassador-allegedly-lied-under-oath-in-impeachment-inquiry-congressman-suggests?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro


If she lied, then she could be prosecuted by Trump's DOJ. Whatcha gonna say when nothing happens? LOL.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiona Hill wrote:
"Ambassador Sondland, in front of the Ukrainians, as I came in, was talking about how he had an agreement with Chief of Staff Mulvaney for a meeting with the Ukrainians if they were going to go forward with investigations,"


Lemme guess Keith, Ms. Hill is lying as well, correct?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lev-parnas-giuliani-ukraine-investigate-bidens-lawyer

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An attorney for Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudy Giuliani, is claiming his client traveled to Kiev shortly before the inauguration of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky this year to demand the new administration publicly announce an investigation into 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son.

Parnas' lawyer confirmed to Fox News that his client told Ukrainian officials that Vice President Mike Pence would not attend the swearing-in of the new president and the United States would freeze aid to the Eastern European nation if the demands were not met.

The claim by Parnas, who has been preparing to testify in the House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment inquiry into President Trump, directly challenged the accounts by Trump and Ukrainian officials that have been at the heart of the congressional probe. Parnas’ claim also directly tied Giuliani, Trump’s personal attorney, to threats of retribution if Ukrainian officials did not comply with the demands – something Giuliani steadfastly has denied.

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PV=nRT wrote:
Fiona Hill wrote:
"Ambassador Sondland, in front of the Ukrainians, as I came in, was talking about how he had an agreement with Chief of Staff Mulvaney for a meeting with the Ukrainians if they were going to go forward with investigations,"


Lemme guess Keith, Ms. Hill is lying as well, correct?


Who?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
Keith Stone wrote:
Let me help you out......the answer to the question you won't answer is: there was no investigation and the aid was given. With that....there is no "this for that".


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/05/read-gordon-sondlands-revised-testimony-about-trump-pressuring-ukraine.html

Quote:
DECLARATION OF AMBASSADOR GORDON D. SONDLAND

I, Gordon Sondland, do hereby swear and affirm as follows:

1. I have reviewed the October 22, 2019, opening statement of Ambassador William Taylor. I have also reviewed the October 31, 2019, opening statement of Tim Morrison. These two opening statements have refreshed my recollection about certain conversations in early September 2019.

2. Ambassador Taylor recalls that I told Mr. Morrison in early September 2019 that the resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine had become tied to a public statement to be issued by Ukraine agreeing to investigate Burisma. Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told Ambassador Taylor that I told Mr. Morrison that I had conveyed this message to Mr. Yermak on September 1, 2019, in connection with Vice President Pence’s visit to Warsaw and a meeting with President Zelensky. Mr. Morrison recalls that I said to him in early September that resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine might be conditioned on a public statement reopening the Burisma investigation.

3. In my October 17, 2019 prepared testimony and in my deposition, I made clear that I had understood sometime after our May 23, 2019, White House debriefing that scheduling a White House visit for President Zelensky was conditioned upon President Zelensky’s agreement to make a public anti-corruption statement. This condition had been communicated by Rudy Giuliani, with whom President Trump directed Ambassador Volker, Secretary Perry, and me, on May 23, 2019, to discuss issues related to the President’s concerns about Ukraine. Ambassador Volker, Secretary Perry, and I understood that satisfying Mr. Giuliani was a condition for scheduling the White House visit, which we all strongly believed to be in the mutual interest of the United States and Ukraine.

4. With respect to the September 1, 2019, Warsaw meeting, the conversations described in Ambassador Taylor’s and Mr. Morrison’s opening statements have refreshed my recollection about conversations involving the suspension of U.S. aid, which had become public only days earlier. I always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised, although I did not know (and still do not know) when, why, or by whom the aid was suspended. However; by the beginning of September 2019, and in the absence of any credible explanation for the suspension of aid, I presumed that the aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement. As I said in my prepared testimony, security aid to Ukraine was in our vital national interest and should not have been delayed for any reason. And it would have been natural for me to have voiced what I had presumed to Ambassador Taylor, Senator Johnson, the Ukrainians, and Mr. Morrison.

5. Also, I now do recall a conversation on September 1, 2019, in Warsaw with Mr. Yermak. This brief pull-aside conversation followed the larger meeting involving Vice President Pence and President Zelensky, in which President Zelensky had raised the issue of the suspension of U.S. aid to Ukraine directly with Vice President Pence. After that large meeting, I now recall speaking individually with Mr. Yermak, where I said that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks. I also recall some question as to whether the public statement could come from the newly appointed Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than from President Zelensky directly.

6. Soon thereafter, I came to understand that, in fact, the public statement would need to come directly from President Zelensky himself. I do not specifically recall how I learned this, but I believe that the information may have come either from Mr. Giuliani or from Ambassador Volker, who may have discussed this with Mr. Giuliani. In a later conversation with Ambassador Taylor, I told him that I had been mistaken about whether a public statement could come from the Prosecutor General; I had come to understand that the public statement would have to come from President Zelensky himself.

7. Finally, as of this writing, I cannot specifically recall if I had one or two phone calls with President Trump in the September 6-9 time frame. Despite repeated requests to the White House and the State Department, I have not been granted access to all of the phone records, and I would like to review those phone records, along with any notes and other documents that may exist, to determine if I can provide more complete testimony to assist Congress. However, although I have no specific recollection of phone calls during this period with Ambassador Taylor or Mr. Morrison, I have no reason to question the substance of their recollection about my September 1 conversation with Mr. Yermak.

I declare under penalty of perjury that the aforementioned is true.

Executed on November 4, 2019.




So if anyting it was TAYLOR not Trump or Prince who put restriction on aid. Never in anything was it ever shown that Trump took such a position.

And NOWHERE does it say that there has to be an investigation of Biden.

Corruption had been so bad that even corruption investigators(many with ties to a Soros group) are now under investigation for corruption themselves.


Founder of Burisma Holding had assets frozen in Great Britian over accusation of money laundering. Later indicted for corruption while energy minister.

Viktor Shokin was hired to investigate corruption at Burisma Holdings.

“Hunter Biden secured position on board of Burisma, which paid as much as $83,000 per month despite no background in energy or Ukraine.

Joe Biden used official position of VP to inform Ukrainain officials that the US will withhold $1 billion in aid unless Shokin fired.

Shokin fired from investigation.

New investigators meeting with US Ambassador to Ukraine. Shokin's successor who is himself under corruption investigation drops charges and Burisma founder returns from GB where he fled to avoid prosecution.

US Ambassador appointed by Obama gives Ukrainian officials list of untouchable people.

Ukrainian officials attempt to get VISA to enter the US and directly present corruption evidence to US DOJ but VISA never approved by the Obama appointed ambassador.

In interview in ABC News Hunter Biden was asked if he thinks he would have been appointed to Burisma board if his father was not the VP. Hunter replied

“I don’t know. I don’t know. Probably not, in retrospect,”

“But that’s—you know—I don’t think that there’s a lot of things that would have happened in my life if my last name wasn’t Biden.”
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