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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Be careful, you might hurt their feelings. They seem to be feeling extra delicate lately.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Only due to a dem led omnibus bill that added $1.3 trillion in spending.

Before you hee and haw about this being a GOP controlled congress check the roll call vote on the omnibus bill and it will show that the bill was passed due to DEMOCRATS votes. Majority of dems in both houses voted for the bill. While a large portion of the GOP in both houses voted against the bill.

Simple fact that so far Trump has added on average $76 billion per month to the debt, while in 8 years Obama added $207 billion a month and it would have been MUCH MUCH higher if the GOP had not take over the purse strings and limited his spending.

Obama who added more to the national debt that EVERY President before him COMBINED is still the only President to ever have a TRILLION dollar budget deficit and he did it four straight years before the GOP took control of both Houses of Congress.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Only due to a dem led omnibus bill that added $1.3 trillion in spending.

Before you hee and haw about this being a GOP controlled congress check the roll call vote on the omnibus bill and it will show that the bill was passed due to DEMOCRATS votes. Majority of dems in both houses voted for the bill. While a large portion of the GOP in both houses voted against the bill.

Simple fact that so far Trump has added on average $76 billion per month to the debt, while in 8 years Obama added $207 billion a month and it would have been MUCH MUCH higher if the GOP had not take over the purse strings and limited his spending.

Obama who added more to the national debt that EVERY President before him COMBINED is still the only President to ever have a TRILLION dollar budget deficit and he did it four straight years before the GOP took control of both Houses of Congress.


So much fail. In your world, a GOP majority can keep a Democratic POTUS's spending in check, but a democratic minority can force a GOP POTUS to spend and jack up out national debt. Lol.

And again, you refuse to compare the debt during Obama's 2nd term to Trump. Why is that? Lol
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Only due to a dem led omnibus bill that added $1.3 trillion in spending.

Before you hee and haw about this being a GOP controlled congress check the roll call vote on the omnibus bill and it will show that the bill was passed due to DEMOCRATS votes. Majority of dems in both houses voted for the bill. While a large portion of the GOP in both houses voted against the bill.

Simple fact that so far Trump has added on average $76 billion per month to the debt, while in 8 years Obama added $207 billion a month and it would have been MUCH MUCH higher if the GOP had not take over the purse strings and limited his spending.

Obama who added more to the national debt that EVERY President before him COMBINED is still the only President to ever have a TRILLION dollar budget deficit and he did it four straight years before the GOP took control of both Houses of Congress.


So much fail. In your world, a GOP majority can keep a Democratic POTUS's spending in check, but a democratic minority can force a GOP POTUS to spend and jack up out national debt. Lol.

And again, you refuse to compare the debt during Obama's 2nd term to Trump. Why is that? Lol


Ever consider a civics class?

ALL and i do mean ALL spending bills originate in the House of Representatives.

The House decides how much money can be spent by controlling the purse strings.

Without support for spending from House there is little any President can do when it comes to spending.

Why do you even comment when you do not know the basic concept of how our republic operates?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Only due to a dem led omnibus bill that added $1.3 trillion in spending.

Before you hee and haw about this being a GOP controlled congress check the roll call vote on the omnibus bill and it will show that the bill was passed due to DEMOCRATS votes. Majority of dems in both houses voted for the bill. While a large portion of the GOP in both houses voted against the bill.

Simple fact that so far Trump has added on average $76 billion per month to the debt, while in 8 years Obama added $207 billion a month and it would have been MUCH MUCH higher if the GOP had not take over the purse strings and limited his spending.

Obama who added more to the national debt that EVERY President before him COMBINED is still the only President to ever have a TRILLION dollar budget deficit and he did it four straight years before the GOP took control of both Houses of Congress.


So much fail. In your world, a GOP majority can keep a Democratic POTUS's spending in check, but a democratic minority can force a GOP POTUS to spend and jack up out national debt. Lol.

And again, you refuse to compare the debt during Obama's 2nd term to Trump. Why is that? Lol


Ever consider a civics class?

ALL and i do mean ALL spending bills originate in the House of Representatives.

The House decides how much money can be spent by controlling the purse strings.

Without support for spending from House there is little any President can do when it comes to spending.

Why do you even comment when you do not know the basic concept of how our republic operates?


Who has the majority in the house?

Who has to sign the bill?

I'll wait
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Only due to a dem led omnibus bill that added $1.3 trillion in spending.

Before you hee and haw about this being a GOP controlled congress check the roll call vote on the omnibus bill and it will show that the bill was passed due to DEMOCRATS votes. Majority of dems in both houses voted for the bill. While a large portion of the GOP in both houses voted against the bill.

Simple fact that so far Trump has added on average $76 billion per month to the debt, while in 8 years Obama added $207 billion a month and it would have been MUCH MUCH higher if the GOP had not take over the purse strings and limited his spending.

Obama who added more to the national debt that EVERY President before him COMBINED is still the only President to ever have a TRILLION dollar budget deficit and he did it four straight years before the GOP took control of both Houses of Congress.


So much fail. In your world, a GOP majority can keep a Democratic POTUS's spending in check, but a democratic minority can force a GOP POTUS to spend and jack up out national debt. Lol.

And again, you refuse to compare the debt during Obama's 2nd term to Trump. Why is that? Lol


Ever consider a civics class?

ALL and i do mean ALL spending bills originate in the House of Representatives.

The House decides how much money can be spent by controlling the purse strings.

Without support for spending from House there is little any President can do when it comes to spending.

Why do you even comment when you do not know the basic concept of how our republic operates?


Who has the majority in the house?

Who has to sign the bill?

I'll wait


Again look at the earlier post above which recorded who voted for the bill and itg is a DEMOLCRAT led bill.

In case you are too lazy to look it up here are the numbers again

90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats.

In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes.

9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

IN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS MORE GOP VOTED AGAINST THE BILL THAN DEMOCRATS.

MORE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THE BILL THAN GOP.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Only due to a dem led omnibus bill that added $1.3 trillion in spending.

Before you hee and haw about this being a GOP controlled congress check the roll call vote on the omnibus bill and it will show that the bill was passed due to DEMOCRATS votes. Majority of dems in both houses voted for the bill. While a large portion of the GOP in both houses voted against the bill.

Simple fact that so far Trump has added on average $76 billion per month to the debt, while in 8 years Obama added $207 billion a month and it would have been MUCH MUCH higher if the GOP had not take over the purse strings and limited his spending.

Obama who added more to the national debt that EVERY President before him COMBINED is still the only President to ever have a TRILLION dollar budget deficit and he did it four straight years before the GOP took control of both Houses of Congress.


So much fail. In your world, a GOP majority can keep a Democratic POTUS's spending in check, but a democratic minority can force a GOP POTUS to spend and jack up out national debt. Lol.

And again, you refuse to compare the debt during Obama's 2nd term to Trump. Why is that? Lol


Ever consider a civics class?

ALL and i do mean ALL spending bills originate in the House of Representatives.

The House decides how much money can be spent by controlling the purse strings.

Without support for spending from House there is little any President can do when it comes to spending.

Why do you even comment when you do not know the basic concept of how our republic operates?


Who has the majority in the house?

Who has to sign the bill?

I'll wait


Again look at the earlier post above which recorded who voted for the bill and itg is a DEMOLCRAT led bill.

In case you are too lazy to look it up here are the numbers again

90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats.

In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes.

9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

IN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS MORE GOP VOTED AGAINST THE BILL THAN DEMOCRATS.

MORE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THE BILL THAN GOP.


Did "the business man" sign the bill?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inconvenient truths

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Unlike the trillion dollar budget deficits that occurred during the Obama administration that were temporary and largely the result of the Great Recession, the Trump deficits that will soon reach and exceed $1 trillion are permanent and will only get worse in the years ahead.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
Did "the business man" sign the bill?


Yes, but remember, he's still a "very stable genius" and an amazing deal-maker.

"Deals are my art form." -- Donald Trump

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I harken back to the Bush/Cheney era. They both said that deficits DO NOT MATTER. Do we have any whitewingnuts here that continue to believe that? I find it amusing if it weren't so serious. The pukes constantly obsess over anything that the dems do even though the pukes also do it and most of their bills and subsequent acts prove to be disasters for everybody involved and much more expensive than anything that the dems have ever proposed. Staying abreast of the national macroeconomic picture has never been a puke consideration and even if they have directly created whatever problems our national economic dilemma is suffering they will somehow blame the dems. And it has been exactly that way ever since the early days of the FDR administrations. Someday long ago our congressional representatives tended to work together and find mutually acceptable measures for which our nation could be made better. Any seriously minded observer of the goings on in our congress today has to note that the tribalism that the pukes operate from is now slowly but surely tearing this nation and our system of governance apart. I wonder if they will be so proud of it when the books are finally written and the disastrous acts of the whitewingnuts are memorialized in their pages. Chanses are I will no longer be around to see it but there is no doubt in my mind that it IS going to happen.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoTrack wrote:
I harken back to the Bush/Cheney era. They both said that deficits DO NOT MATTER.


Nah, deficits only matter when there's a lib in the White House. That's Wingnut Logic 101.

Although it was interesting that this morning Fox & Friends on Trump TV actually dared to sound almost critical of Donald's deficits ...

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-brian-kilmeade-knocks-trump-economy-the-21-trillion-in-debt-bothers-me/
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
PV=nRT wrote:
NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
You mean the 4 years in which the GOP had control of both Houses and limited how much Obama could spend.


Those exact same conditions exist right now, the only difference is Trump instead of Obama. Now our deficit is ballooning.

NeverTrustAMidget wrote:
Because it was a democrat led omnibus bill. If you go to roll call you will find that a higher percentage of democrats voted for the Omnibus bill in both eh House and Senate than did GOP. 90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats. In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes. 9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

So the DEMOCRATS OWN THE OMNIBUS BILL.


This right here shows how delusional and broken you really are. You just quoted above how a GOP majority in both houses gets the credit for limiting spending under Obama. Now you're claiming that a democratic minority in both houses is responsible for Trump's spending problems. There's a reason why Trumpkins are stereotyped as not very bright.


Only due to a dem led omnibus bill that added $1.3 trillion in spending.

Before you hee and haw about this being a GOP controlled congress check the roll call vote on the omnibus bill and it will show that the bill was passed due to DEMOCRATS votes. Majority of dems in both houses voted for the bill. While a large portion of the GOP in both houses voted against the bill.

Simple fact that so far Trump has added on average $76 billion per month to the debt, while in 8 years Obama added $207 billion a month and it would have been MUCH MUCH higher if the GOP had not take over the purse strings and limited his spending.

Obama who added more to the national debt that EVERY President before him COMBINED is still the only President to ever have a TRILLION dollar budget deficit and he did it four straight years before the GOP took control of both Houses of Congress.


So much fail. In your world, a GOP majority can keep a Democratic POTUS's spending in check, but a democratic minority can force a GOP POTUS to spend and jack up out national debt. Lol.

And again, you refuse to compare the debt during Obama's 2nd term to Trump. Why is that? Lol


Ever consider a civics class?

ALL and i do mean ALL spending bills originate in the House of Representatives.

The House decides how much money can be spent by controlling the purse strings.

Without support for spending from House there is little any President can do when it comes to spending.

Why do you even comment when you do not know the basic concept of how our republic operates?


Who has the majority in the house?

Who has to sign the bill?

I'll wait


Again look at the earlier post above which recorded who voted for the bill and itg is a DEMOLCRAT led bill.

In case you are too lazy to look it up here are the numbers again

90 GOP in House voted NO on the Bill compared to 77 Democrats.

In Senate 38 dems voted yes for the bill and 27 GOP voted yes.

9 dem Senators voted against the bill while 24 GOP senators voted against the bill

IN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS MORE GOP VOTED AGAINST THE BILL THAN DEMOCRATS.

MORE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THE BILL THAN GOP.


Did "the business man" sign the bill?


Well Midge?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The midge has nothing for you, PV. Common sense is really hard on him and any educated reflection of the facts send him into pure idiocy.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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