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The money pit called the UN strikes again
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JamieHall



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tilley88 wrote:
#1-Protecting the HOMELAND by restricting immigration.
#2-Pressuring trading partners.
#3-Building up the military.
#4-Increasing U.S. influence worldwide.
#5-Israel, your so-called nation of condemned people, has long been aligned with America.


Those are all fine talking points for Trump, but foreign policy isn't as simple as following a five-point "things to do" list, regardless of what Trump, Hannity and Fox News probably want to believe.

We have and always will have some level of dependence on other countries for a variety of reasons -- those involve our own massive amount of exports, need for regional military assistance, regional influence and stability, use of airspace, embassy space, etc. Not to mention our need to hold influence over those countries before Russia and China try to fill a vacuum.

Imagine that the US decides tomorrow to pull all aid from, let's say, Jordan. The first thing that happens is that their economy is damaged, their government is weakened, and the nation is ripe for a coup and takeover by rebels or extremists. That also opens the door for Russian or Chinese influence to stabilize the country, which they would welcome.

So no, it will never, ever be as simple as us pulling foreign aid or telling another country to jump through new hoops, and even though Trump is too stupid to understand, thankfully the people around him do understand that foreign policy is a constant give-and-take.

As for Trump not bowing, do a quick Google search of Trump bowing. He did bow to the Saudi king, just as Obama and Dubya both did in the past. Those were all widely reported.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Money pit Reply with quote

Mr hall thought you was a smarter guy then the crap you just wrote
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
tilley88 wrote:
#1-Protecting the HOMELAND by restricting immigration.
#2-Pressuring trading partners.
#3-Building up the military.
#4-Increasing U.S. influence worldwide.
#5-Israel, your so-called nation of condemned people, has long been aligned with America.


Those are all fine talking points for Trump, but foreign policy isn't as simple as following a five-point "things to do" list, regardless of what Trump, Hannity and Fox News probably want to believe.

We have and always will have some level of dependence on other countries for a variety of reasons -- those involve our own massive amount of exports, need for regional military assistance, regional influence and stability, use of airspace, embassy space, etc. Not to mention our need to hold influence over those countries before Russia and China try to fill a vacuum.

Imagine that the US decides tomorrow to pull all aid from, let's say, Jordan. The first thing that happens is that their economy is damaged, their government is weakened, and the nation is ripe for a coup and takeover by rebels or extremists. That also opens the door for Russian or Chinese influence to stabilize the country, which they would welcome.

So no, it will never, ever be as simple as us pulling foreign aid or telling another country to jump through new hoops, and even though Trump is too stupid to understand, thankfully the people around him do understand that foreign policy is a constant give-and-take.

As for Trump not bowing, do a quick Google search of Trump bowing. He did bow to the Saudi king, just as Obama and Dubya both did in the past. Those were all widely reported.


Some bow, looked more like a dip motion. Of course, he didnít bow all the way to the floor and suk his toes like Obama did.......several times.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
tilley88 wrote:
#1-Protecting the HOMELAND by restricting immigration.
#2-Pressuring trading partners.
#3-Building up the military.
#4-Increasing U.S. influence worldwide.
#5-Israel, your so-called nation of condemned people, has long been aligned with America.


Those are all fine talking points for Trump, but foreign policy isn't as simple as following a five-point "things to do" list, regardless of what Trump, Hannity and Fox News probably want to believe.

We have and always will have some level of dependence on other countries for a variety of reasons -- those involve our own massive amount of exports, need for regional military assistance, regional influence and stability, use of airspace, embassy space, etc. Not to mention our need to hold influence over those countries before Russia and China try to fill a vacuum.

Imagine that the US decides tomorrow to pull all aid from, let's say, Jordan. The first thing that happens is that their economy is damaged, their government is weakened, and the nation is ripe for a coup and takeover by rebels or extremists. That also opens the door for Russian or Chinese influence to stabilize the country, which they would welcome.

So no, it will never, ever be as simple as us pulling foreign aid or telling another country to jump through new hoops, and even though Trump is too stupid to understand, thankfully the people around him do understand that foreign policy is a constant give-and-take.

As for Trump not bowing, do a quick Google search of Trump bowing. He did bow to the Saudi king, just as Obama and Dubya both did in the past. Those were all widely reported.


Some bow, looked more like a dip motion. Of course, he didnít bow all the way to the floor and jsfa his toes like Obama did.......several times.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see pervert is being the meme queen again...every time he loses an argument, he throws up a meme .... crazy...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Money pit Reply with quote

campw wrote:
Mr hall thought you was a smarter guy then the crap you just wrote


Well, see , we all can be mistaken.... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Money pit Reply with quote

mudslinger47 wrote:
campw wrote:
Mr hall thought you was a smarter guy then the crap you just wrote


Well, see , we all can be mistaken.... Very Happy


Yet neither of you bothered to point out what was incorrect.

Please, I'm genuinely curious ...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Money pit Reply with quote

JamieHall wrote:
mudslinger47 wrote:
campw wrote:
Mr hall thought you was a smarter guy then the crap you just wrote


Well, see , we all can be mistaken.... Very Happy


Yet neither of you bothered to point out what was incorrect.

Please, I'm genuinely curious ...


About everything you write.... but you are a liberal so we expect it...

and what was wrong? Tilly was right....
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudslinger47 wrote:
I see pervert is being the meme queen again...every time he loses an argument, he throws up a meme .... crazy...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PV=nRT wrote:
mudslinger47 wrote:
I see pervert is being the meme queen again...every time he loses an argument, he throws up a meme .... crazy...
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You? Why would you be butt hurt, you weren't even in the conversation were you?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with SoS Tillerson. The donnie is a moron.

And the investigations continue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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